Friday, March 2, 2012

The elite group of Navy SEAL Wives

I cringed as I was writing the title to this post. I feel like I'm about to throw up a little bit in my mouth, I can't stop rolling my eyes and I am mostly disgusted to say that there is, within the community, groups of Navy SEAL wives that truly believe they are above others, the bees knees, the cat's meow, or like I like to say - the shit. Now, my disclaimer is that not every single SEAL wife behave this way. I know many that don't, and I like to think that I belong to the latter. Well, let me tell you a story of when I had my first close encounter with one of these cliques.

My husband had been deployed for almost 7 months. It was time for him to come home. We were in regular contact and although I knew his arrival was close, it became official once he gave me the information that I needed to figure out his arrival time, location, and other details.

The day came faster than I was ready for. I had my mom help me clean the house up to my husband's standards a few days prior to when I thought he was arriving, but just like anything military-related, the date was postponed by about a week. I was too excited to care about the details, and there I was, driving anxiously toward the place I was told to go to. On my way there I was wondering whether I would see welcome banners from other wives (not my thing, but it's cute when others do), I also wondered if dressing up was the way to go, or was my effortlessly-cute-but-casual-not-trying-too-hard look the one that would make my husband remember me by for the next few weeks?

Getting back to the purpose of this story, I finally arrived to the 'waiting room.' We weren't given an exact time of their arrival, but it should be within the next 3-8 hours. As I walked into the room (classroom style), I see a group of women gathered in a circle by a corner of the room. I look over to the other side of the room and I see a single woman sitting with her small daughter. I did not know who she was, but she looked more approachable than the rest. I smiled at the lone lady and her daughter, sat close to her and introduced myself. After 1o minutes or so of conversation, I found that her husband works for a support-type command (not SEALS) - some call them enablers - and it turns out that her husband was arriving that day as well. I asked her why she hadn't joined the group of ladies on the other side of the room. That's when she told me about the No-Support-Wives-Allowed cliques.

Before I go further, it is good to note that SEALS sometimes deploy with men from various support commands. Sometimes, they work together while deployed. Long story short, she told me that in the several years that she's been a part of the community, she is usually excluded from wives-only gatherings or events due to the fact that her husband is not a SEAL. Furthermore, when a SEAL wife befriends Support wives (like herself), they are shunned from the group. I don't like jumping into conclusions, so as I was listening to her, I figured that she must have had some bad experiences that may have pushed her to such a stereotype. I am sure that there are some SEAL wives that behave this way, but figured that it had to be a very small amount of them.

An hour later, the wife of a close friend (SEAL) of my husband - whom I had met several times before, socialized, visited her house and spent a few holidays with - walks into the well-lit room. I look at her and put on a huge smile (finally someone that I know!), she looks at me for at least a few seconds, looks away and walks straight toward the group of women hanging out at the other end of the room. Why did she not even smile back at me? Did she not recognize me? Does she not like the person I am talking to? Weird.

I keep looking over to try and catch her gaze. I did a few times and smiled each time with a "Hi there" face. Nothing. She looked away each time. This is starting to bother me, I now know she definitely saw me sitting there, just a few steps away from her. I forget about it especially since we are told that the group is arriving and we need to go outside the building.

It is dark and cold outside. I feel like peeing, but try to hold it in (no time for a bathroom break) and calm my nerves. I am trying to act cool, as if I am not a newby at this, but then I realize that I don't even know how a non-newby should act. I say hi to a few people around me, hoping that someone would see through my facade and help me by telling me what to expect (will they be allowed to greet their families right after they get off the van/bus? Do I wait where I am at or can I to walk toward him?). Can someone tell me if I am doing the right things?! I'm so needy.

My husband sees me. I see him. We both have our biggest I-don't-care-how-ridiculous-I-look smiles and we go straight for a 3 minute bear hug. Several minutes later I see his friend, the one married to the wife that completely ignored me just a few hours ago. He comes over, says hi, and gives me a hug. All of a sudden his wife looks at me with a surprised face and with a fake high-pitched voice says "Oh my gawd, how are you doing?! It's so great to see you!" I tried to fake smile, but since I suck at it, I am sure she saw through it. She glanced me a guilty face and semi-apologized for not saying hi earlier. I figured that she is one of the followers...hmmm, there must be a Godmother? (Okay, that was dumb - replace that with 'a leader').

I met the leader a few months after that day and let's just say that I never want to see that person again. I let my guard down, tried to give her group a chance (all SEAL wives, of course) and make some friends. The leader's husband was one of the head honchos in the team, which of what I gathered from that group, can be trumped by a lesser-ranked SEAL wife who's husband did something famously heroic. These wives mainly value themselves by their husband's rank.

Now back to my story: I was invited to join them the day after for drinks. I was going to receive the details via text. The next day comes, I wake up early (NOT my thing), dress up, cancelled some plans I had (trying to make an effort here), and no text. I called and texted two of them asking for the information and no reply. Is this their version of hazing?

A month later, I see my husband's friend's wife (my husband wanted to stop by and say hi) and after she ran out of random things to talk about, she says "Oh, sorry about never getting back to you last time, hope you weren't waiting for our reply. We totally forgot about you."

I cringed, wanted to say something like "Oh, not at all, I was actually calling to cancel," but then remembered that my dumbass self left messages like "Can you please send me the address? I am all ready to go. Can't wait!" so I just made a "Oh, don't even worry about it" face. I didn't want to risk opening my mouth and saying something like, oh I don't know, "You fucking bitch!" (excuse my language).

I mentioned I needed to go to the ladies room and as soon as I got there I silently screamed at myself in the mirror (just like in the movies), angrily texted my husband with a "Let's get the fuck out of here, I'll tell you in the car" (Phone's keyboard almost lost a key or two) and fake smiled my way through that visit.


Yes, this story could just be a Mean Girls vs. Cool and Awesome Girls (ha), but as I've gotten to know more of the cool and awesome Navy SEAL wives out there, my story is just like many of the stories shared by them. Based on my experience though, the cool and awesome SEAL wives heavily out-number the mean girls.

My message to these ladies: It is OK to place high value to yours and your husband's accomplishments. Yes, your husband achieved something that many have not, their accomplishments have been also due to your unwavering support, and in some ways the life we live is tougher than many other military families. However, do not use this to excuse your poor treatment of others.

22 comments:

  1. Wow!!! I'm a SEAL wife too and in my 9 yrs of being in this community I can honestly say I've never had that problem. Are you east or west coast? I'm friends with tons of "support" wives. I have found in some cases they separate themselves from us because of their husbands. (with new guys and new support guys there is always that I'm better then the other attitude) but you find after a few platoons the guys realize they can't do their job without the other. Maybe I've been lucky with my experiences. I was an ombudsman too for my husbands team and we always made sure the tech/support wives were there. Hell in some cases none of my fellow SEAL wives came to the events but plenty of support/tech wives did. I think it really depends and is the job of the leadership to bridge that gap. And again maybe I've been lucky cause the team we were at we didn't have that problem. Nor have I come acrossed wives that take ownership of their husbands accomplishments. But what you do find are husbands saying they can't do what they do without their wives supporting them. I don't think there is anything wrong with being proud of what your husband has done or accomplished. I know that because of me mine has a family and can deploy for months and months and not worry about the house or the kids or bills or anything but his job and mission, therefore making him successful! That's my job and the part as a wife I play. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. But I feel sorry for you being a new girl and being dealt that card. And it sucks to hear there are catty wives out there acting like that. I usually mentor the new wives and help them out. I hope you find a "good" wife that can do the same for you. Good luck and I hope it gets better for you!

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  2. Hi Anonymous, you beat me to my next post :). After that deployment I have been able to meet other SEAL wives and have been amazed by how friendly and warm they are. I especially want to commend the role on an ombusdman, and I want to thank you for taking on such an important and selfless role. For my husband's next deployment, I have been learning so much about what the ombudsman does. From gatherings, resources, team building activities and information to discounts and other types of coordination work.

    I agree with you too in that there is nothing wrong with being proud of your husband's accomplishments because most of them wouldn't have been possible without your support.

    As a new girl it was definitely hard for me, but I can definitely say that I should've tried harder to meet others and build relationships. Thankfully I have found some great help within the community; it's amazing to see how much we all have in common.

    I would love to get your perspective regarding the role on an ombudsman (things that can be shared with the public). Maybe a story or two that could help other new SEAL wives seeing this blog. I would love to make it it's own post. If not, don't worry. One day I hope I am able to be in that role and give back to the community in that way.

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  3. Hi, I hope you are well and I wanted to tell you how happy I am to have found your blog. We are about to embark on this same journey and often I wonder what it will be like to pick my life up and plop it down in the middle of the Navy. My man is not a younger recruit and I am older than he. Often I wonder how people in this community will perceive us, not that it matters. Your post made it very real for me. As anywhere there are kind and thoughtful people and those who are better left avoided. But this is his vocation so the people will be an integral part of our lives, like it or not. When we do find ourselves fully immersed I hope the wives I meet are more like you than the ones to be avoided. I hope your husband stays safe and you fill your time apart fulfilling your own dreams.

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  4. Hi!
    I love reading your posts. I was only in the Seal community for several weeks. I made a few friends but when I left my husband due to his cheating I was completly shut out of the group. Women who I thought were my friends suddenly dropped and the Seal community closed ranks around my husband. I loved being apart of the community but was sad to find out how shallow some of these people were.

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    1. I sometimes think that the sad truth of being in this community is that just about every wife/gf has been or is being cheated on. Perhaps it's not as much as being shut out as it is them trying to ignore what is actually happening. It is a hard life and they work hard play hard. I am fighting with myself as to whether my relationship is worth working out or ending. I feel forced to work it out for the children. Cheating is so accepted in the military, they say it isn't , but it definitly is. It's the sad truth. SEALs have women throwing themselves at them, froghogs. If you think I am bitter, you are very spot on.

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    2. Do they really ALL cheat? Are you sure about that?

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    3. There is always an exception.

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    4. I am also a SEAL wife and although in the 8 years i have been married i have never had any trust or cheating problems with my husband i was with him while he was in the regular navy for four years and i always heard bad stuff but when i got to the seal community it was a whole other ball game as far as the unfaithful nature of the guys. I haven't heard much from the guys my husband hangs out with but i have heard all the story's about other men I have heard the story's about Guam and how its all strip clubs i have heard the story's about men sleeping with the wife's of there teammates. I have talked to team 6 wives and they have there own wife initiation process and if they don't like you then your husband doesn't stand a chance making it into 6 or at least that's the impression i got. I have heard the story's about them going to Mexico. also heard about "fake training missions" where they all take off and go to clubs and cheat then come back to there wives who thought they where training the whole time. I have heard about when your a new guy you have to be a sober driver and drive these guys to strip clubs and bars doesn't matter if your married your going to have to go in and hang out. they all trade porn hard drives and most of them are addicted to porn in one way or another. They go out and party while out at schools and they don't call till 3 am and some wives notice that they are drunk but they say they just finished training and are tired. the list goes on ... all I'm saying is there are a BUNCH of cheaters in the seals but a few like my husband. trust your gut instinct.

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    5. oh i forgot to mention keep an eye on your man if he gets HUGE muscles out of no wear some men tell there wives how they got the muscle and some men lie and keep it from them.

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  5. I agree I am the wife of a Navy seal for 10 years-he is now on sealteam 1 - every Seal buddy he brings over is talking about how they are cheating on their wives and girlfriends and they all stick together on their story-I caught my husband through credit card reciepts- Nialand is a place they train as you know-well they all went to mexico over the boarder to a hooker bar during training and all bought hookers-all the married men ! I saw Mexico on the credit card and called there

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    1. I just found this blog the other day and I saw your comment about Niland, CA! My husband is there right now for Land Warfare Training. Is this for real that they go to Mexico?

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  6. He made the excuse that he was bowling next door and that he had to go in and get them- pull them out but bought alot of beers because they were not done with the hookers in the back-bullshit! BE AWARE LADIES TRAINING IS DANGEROUS IN MORE WAYS THEN YOU KNOW

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  7. Yes these things are all true . Besides the abuse many of us suffer becsuse of their PTSD my husband has tryed to strangle me to death many times in his sleep and awake becsuse of what he has become . Very abusive mentally and physically and the fact he is trained he knows how to not leave a mark he laughs at this. I am not the only one many others have same problem . Being a seal wife is not a great thing it's awful

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  8. You people are retarded. What are you, 13 and in highschool?! Where is your class and decency for your men? I am digusted that you would post these remarks about our soldiers who have come all that way while you sit on your asses and type on a blog. Your men left you for a reason - stop using this woman's blog as your venting board and get some damn professional counseling for your neuroticism. (Look it up, geniuses.)

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    1. Well said! These women need to SHUT UP!

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    2. Well said, you I am sure you are the women that feel you are better than the wives, and he will certainly stay with you FOREVER!I generally find women that feel that way "oh shut up,these men are saints" are usually the ones that are stalking them to try and snag them away.

      No one can do that job with out some collateral damage, it is well know the TEAMS have an enormous divorce rate, perhaps greater than 90 %. Whether from stress, poor mate choosing, long hours or whatever it is not a reflective on how "good" the women is, or how golden her pussy is. Good luck Blogger on you new life, and I have been there honey and have been around the rank holder and the GP chicks that feel she can get my man.

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  9. Wow, I hadn't noticed all of the posts from September. Although the issues that my husband and I had were not the purpose of this blog, I did post about them as they happened. Marriage is hard, and I DO NOT agree or encourage the thought that all Navy SEALS are cheaters. You can see my opinion in the New to Former blog entry.

    Now as for the abuse some of the anonymous posters added to my blog, I would agree with this commenter although I would say it nicely: please get professional help. Venting does not help when you are not doing or planning to do anything about it. I do disagree in that it is not always always the fault of the woman as to wjy their men leave them. In can be both, it can be a mix of things, etc. The important thing here is to assess your own actions and how you can learn and improve yourself.

    When it comes to domestic abuse, that happens everywhere and it does not discriminate between professions. Evidence that someone has hurt you is not needed for you to remove yourself from such a toxic relationship. As to PTSD, this can manifest in many different forms and I would ask everyone to be careful when making these connections. Instead, I would refer you to learn more about it. Thankfully, our military has many resources for the family and they can provide a lot of great information about that topic. I went to a speaking engagement a few years ago and was truly impressed at how much I learned about PTSD.

    Finally, my blog was intended to document moments of my new and happy marriage, and how certain things pertaining to the community affected our marriage in particular ways. Unfortunately my story didn't end so well, but as I mentioned in my latest posts, my soon to be ex husband and I continue to share a friendship, care, and respect for each other (this takes a while to restore), and most importantly for me, I continue to be his biggest supporter. Doing what they do is exceptional and even though I decided to end our marriage instead of trying to make it work, he knows that I admire his passion, courage and love for his job and our country.

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  10. My husband is currently training in Niland, CA and this blog is scaring the shit out of me.

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  11. I have had experience with this before my husband became a member of SEAL Team 7. I guess you would call it in the regular Navy, since being part of Naval Special Warfare Group (to me) is like night and day compared to the rest of the military. But I am no military expert, my husband is the first guy that I ever dated that was a service member. Yes, a lot of men cheat...a lot of military men in cheat, not just SEALs. Think about the type of guy that actually becomes a SEAL? High testosterone alpha insecure men. Especially when they are younger. I guess mine is maturing with age...he is 33. But still...he is gorgeous, successful, educated and speaks five different languages so it's hard for me to blame the ladies for throwing themselves at him...which they do, and yes it pisses me off. We haven't had the best marriage either. I left him for a year and we both were planning on going out separate ways, I actually started dating again (didn't tell him that...he probably would have sliced the guys throat) but we have a child together and there is no other woman in this world that could probably understand what he is going through, so I decided to stay. And he is doing so well, and really being an example for the younger guys. Relationships are so complicated!! Independence, communication, passion and mutual respect needs to be practiced in the relationship for it to last...that's just my opinion :) Cheers!

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  12. wow. oh well, I won't marry a SEAL anymore...just kidding :-)

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  13. Thank you for your posts. I like reading them. I am the wife of a now retired team guy. I love him like no other. I am happy to have a predictable, slow life with days of routine....like seeing him everyday and sleeping with him every night. I was a member of the community, but kept my circle small and tight. I did so because of what I amongst the ladies. It was a chapter in my life that I will look back on fondly, but am happy to have had move on.

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  14. As the "other" of a ret. one of them, its not just in the SEAL community. Men do what men do, its all in how we choose to respond. I've seen it in supermarkets, police dept., teachers, etc. Men are wired differently than women. I'm not saying its right or wrong, its just a fact of being human. Guys don't cheat b/c they don't love their wife/gf, it could be comradery, a way to forget the stresses of the day, a much needed (but they won't admit it) warm soft place to be, etc. Would I have said this when I was in my 20's, no; 30's, no; but in my more life experienced decade, I've figured that life is too short to get caught up in the blame game. Enjoy your time with him regardless of your classification (wife, gf, or other woman). You may wake up one day to a knock on your door... and he's kia. Do you want your memories to be of fighting or caring and kindness? If you are not comfortable with this life, move on. You can only change and control yourself. It's God's job to change others, not ours.

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